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Mate?!!  Can you talk to a lady like that, and a retired one, too!? Lol!

No, I realise that if you want to go on living in the area, it's NOT a good idea to ruffle the council's feathers, or any other group for that matter, that could make things very awkward for you.  I also understand a bit about procedures (not in detail as you do, of course) and, of course, if the EH refused to help for no good reason, then they are breaking guidelines, if not the law. However, I also know that letting councils get away with neglecting their duty, when we pay our council tax for their services, is not on. (That's actually a BIG bone of contention here atm, because of the council's handling - or not - of the refuse collection 'service').  I realise, too, of course, that some councils have HUGE amounts of this kind of business to deal with, compared to others and, being human, they can only deal with what they can deal with. In a way, you can't blame some of them for trying to fend off some requests for help.

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Lol, Mac!  I'm really not that easily offended - there are worse names you could have called me.

No the situation with 'officialdom' can be sickening, can't it?  I like the Monster Raving Loony Party's idea that it should be law that governments (and the same goes for councils) should have to do as they've promised - or, at least admit when they haven't!

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Well, the situation has deteriorated.  Possibly not my best move but being off sick today, and enduring banging and running up and down since 6.30am, by 8 I'd had enough.  The mother and I have had an angry exchange of words.  I felt awful for shouting, (I know I'm a sap) so wanted to apologise, only to be told by her that 1) I'M the bad neighbour, 2) she's suffering mental tension, (and there's me under the doctor for stress), and she's played a race card.  Have advised my solicitor, and only just starting to calm down.   I want to pack a bag, lock this place up and never look back.  I hope and hope the Freeholders are decent and take action.  Otherwise I am off.

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I'm so sorry this has happened, but anyone who's been in a similar situation will sympathise with you. Particularly when you're under par, situations can seem so much worse.  Just don't be tempted to take things into your own hands anymore. Mum was actually told by the Police that, having tried to be very reasonable and polite to her neighbours and not getting any response, she shoudn't IN ANY WAY, try to force the issue when it was now in someone else's hands. And, as I've said elsewhere, take no notice of the race issue - it's a distraction that some people employ when they know they're in the wrong!

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Yup, I am more than aware of my own stupidity this morning.  I fully expect a visit from the husband when he gets home.  Shall email my solicitor tomorrow when back at work; staying off today has made me feel worse.

Regards
Leah

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Leah, I'd suggest that you don't open the door if he comes. If you do, you'll probably end up in a lose/lose situation.  If you apologise, it's admitting you were wrong to get annoyed. Of course, you were going to be annoyed, but you were 'wrong' to show it. If you don't apologise, then it's likely to make things worse. Being on your own, you have every reason not to open the door or to speak to him.

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Hi Steve

Just read your comment on my original message.  Unfortunately, things haven't improved for me and like you I still feel totally trapped.  I know what you mean when you say people don't understand because they don't have the same problem.  I get the feeling they think you are just complaining and that you should expect some noise. What they don't understand is that it is continuous and you can hear your neighbours every move. Unless someone has experienced this problem I don't think they realise the impact it can have.  Your home should be a place you can relax in and when that is taken away from you by selfish neighbours it has an extreme effect on all areas of your life.

Sarah




Steve wrote:

Sarah, I also live in a traditional terraced house, in Derby. My neighbours have laminated flooring also.

I complained to the local council about the 3 years of noise from my previous neighbours, but the council offered me very little help or comfort. Sole destroying. Luckily my neighbours moved. I was so overjoyed.

But the day my new neighbours moved in, was just a new chapter of my noise hell. All day, every day, everything in their house is slammed banged and crashed. After a while I tried talking to them. Their English is poor, and didn’t really seem concerned with what I had to say. They have just continued. I feel it is pointless contacting the council again. I am a single male in my 30’s with no children, I don’t concern them.

I cannot afford to move, my neighbours are unreasonable, the council/police wont help. I hate my house now, and look for every opportunity to visit friends and family. I am embarrassed about the noise that I feel I cannot entertain my friends and family and my place. They don’t really understand because they don’t suffer the same problems. I feel so trapped, so alone, its just not fair.

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Dear Sarah & Steve

I completely understand your comments.  I too feel trapped in my own home, at the mercy of my upstairs neighbours.  The only time it is quiet is when they are out, (which is less than 5% of the time it seems).  I am now spending up to 2 nights during the week at friends, weekends at my dad's or other friends and where before February my dad would spend a weekend every month with me, that can't happen anymore.  My own home has been invaded by noise made by other people. I don't expect complete and utter silence, (and I live by a train line so am well used to that), but the continual banging is playing havoc with my health and sanity. 
Waiting for a response from the freeholder.  Fingers crossed.

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I do hope it works out for you very soon!

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Hi Steve and Sarah,

I fully understand your problem. My house is also a town house and my neighbour's son has made my life hell. My neighours is a single dad with traveling job. So imagine 17 year old with whole house to himself for most of week. Its like living next to a club house. if its not high music at night then kids running arround the house slamming doors and shouting.
I have written letter to my neighbour. But i know there is no solution to this as soon as my neighbour goes out of town (which he does most part of week) everything will start again. I am now thinking to sell my house and move either to a rented accomodation (if I cant buy) or buy a detached house.
Its driving me crazy all the noise. I can hear then talking shouting ....  I have learned a lesson never to buy a house next to teenager.. check neighbours first before buying house.
I will loose lot of money but I cant take it more (money can be earned but health and relationships lose cannot be reversed.)
I hope you find a solution to your problems


Sarah wrote:

Hi Steve

Just read your comment on my original message.  Unfortunately, things haven't improved for me and like you I still feel totally trapped.  I know what you mean when you say people don't understand because they don't have the same problem.  I get the feeling they think you are just complaining and that you should expect some noise. What they don't understand is that it is continuous and you can hear your neighbours every move. Unless someone has experienced this problem I don't think they realise the impact it can have.  Your home should be a place you can relax in and when that is taken away from you by selfish neighbours it has an extreme effect on all areas of your life.

Sarah




Steve wrote:

Sarah, I also live in a traditional terraced house, in Derby. My neighbours have laminated flooring also.

I complained to the local council about the 3 years of noise from my previous neighbours, but the council offered me very little help or comfort. Sole destroying. Luckily my neighbours moved. I was so overjoyed.

But the day my new neighbours moved in, was just a new chapter of my noise hell. All day, every day, everything in their house is slammed banged and crashed. After a while I tried talking to them. Their English is poor, and didn’t really seem concerned with what I had to say. They have just continued. I feel it is pointless contacting the council again. I am a single male in my 30’s with no children, I don’t concern them.

I cannot afford to move, my neighbours are unreasonable, the council/police wont help. I hate my house now, and look for every opportunity to visit friends and family. I am embarrassed about the noise that I feel I cannot entertain my friends and family and my place. They don’t really understand because they don’t suffer the same problems. I feel so trapped, so alone, its just not fair.

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Well, the Freeholder expressed great concern that they hadnt been informed of the problem, (hardly surprising given that the Property Managers would not pass any complaint on). They have now requested copies of emails between me and the Property Managers, (although these have now been passed on along with my noise diary)....... they also asked my Solicitor to confirm that I am prepared to go to court and incur  costs of "between £15k-20K", which my solicitor has advised are just scare tactics.

Am keeping fingers crossed - things HAVE to improve.

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m_j wrote:

How I symphasise with all the people that are living in semi detached properties or flats and next to neighbours that have laminate flooring. I have lived in my present address for 37 years and have been very happy until my new neighbours moved in 15 months ago. They placed laminate flooring in every room.
They have 5 children, 3 of which have ADHD and the noise they make is horrendous. I have to go out every day to escape the continual banging of doors, cupboards and the children running all over the house. They also seem to push furniture around several times throughout the day and the noise that this makes, makes me jump.
The noise starts often as early as 5.45 am and continues up until midnight. I have mentioned to them several times about the noise and they just look at me blankly.
Their children seem to be able to sleep through this noise as they must be used to it, but unfortunately their parents don’t know the meaning of consideration and thoughtfulness.
The women’s mouth can be heard in my lounge and the F word is a common part of her vocabulary. My health is now suffering so much that I am having to move as there is no escape from the noise. I spoke to the council who couldn’t seem less interested and advised it’s a minor situation.
The noise at Christmas was particularly bad and other neighbours that came round couldn’t believe the noise I have to put up with. I cant am now having to move when I was looking forward to living out my retirement in my house.

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How I have sympathy for you,  I have had a very similar problem, I had a beautiful flat with a landscaped garden on a fairly modern respectable Barratts estate in Derbyshire, years were spent updating and improving my property, we even had a conservatory, which months of hard work to erect.  I finally felt secure and positive about my life, until a family of 5 moved into the flat directly above me and my 10 yr old daughter who lived below in our small  there s was the same size, I didn't see this as a problem was glad the previous owner had moved out as she had had an ectopic pregnancy  d given me months of false accusations that I was noisy, and that  was always shouting at my Daughter and to be totally honest I hardly ever raise my voice, there were tears as I had had a few bad years and couldn't be bothered to bitch back.  Anyway back to the new inconsiderate lot from the moment they visited, her boyfriend owned the flat but was away lorry driving all week, I tactfully mentioned the fact that (te noise was awful stamping banging running feet above my head, sounding the ceiling would come through) I ed her if she was moving in, cause tthey seemed to be moving black bin bags cars were pulling up delivering more bags and that the noise they were making was awful, but didn t want to argue about it since I still felt tender from the previous owners, and she said that they were , my heart sunk  I felt hot, how much more could I take, but I had hope that It was just a stage, and my home would be my home how I had wanted it to be for the last 2or 3 yrs, but the noise just got worse, swearing at her children last thing at night 11-12pm, and first thing in the morning stomping feet, swearing crying children it drove me to desperate measures, either I would have a nervous breakdown, or have to leave my lovely flat, i  felt it wasn't fair on my daughter it was turning me into a nervous wreck, trying all the time to get out of the house when Iwas in at the end of my tether feeling completley sick at there ways , now in a fair world it should have been them who should have left and found something more suitable, but I had to leave what a shame, I couldn't have tolerated anymore, the funny thing was whenever I had visitors the noise seased, maybe I was just "listening out" terrible isn't it, now I live somewhere as quiete as the grave, the only noise I hear is next doors coffee machine, which is ok as it's not intrusive, the birds singing, my home feels like my home again, when I come home in the evening it's peaceful I can do what I like, nobody shouting, swearing around me, I wish I hadn't had to leave, but my health is so much better, no thankyou laminate fllooring in poorly sound insulated flats.  Hope you find a way to sort out those awful noisy neighbours Caroline

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my next door neighbour keeps quails in their back garden & its really getting to me because of how noisy they are. i get woken up by them every morning at 4am & then have to listen to them all day long. the cage/shed that the quails are kept in is right close to our house & also my neighbour has 2 dogs that are all driving me berserk because they can see the quails but obviously cant get to them & the dogs keep jumping up at the fence to try to get them. also the dogs keep scratching at the wood of the cage/shed. i et on with my neighbour but i dont want to cause any ill feeling between us but im at the end of my tether now with the quails!!!! 
would appreciate any feed back from anyone  to let me know if i do have a right to complian to my neighbour.

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It would depend, I think, on what sort of area you're living in, Loujen. I live in the countryside, surrounded by farmland, and people have complained about cockerals crowing, something that's part of the countryside. In the first instance, having a 'right to complain' shouldn't be the issue, but maybe a quiet and polite word with your neighbour is a good start. It does seem a very odd thing to do, though, to keep these birds in such close confinement.