• Registered: 1 April 2010
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Re: Neighbour with laminate floors...

Hi NL!  I can't help but feel that, given all that you've said, if you were to get to the stage (and hopefully that won't happen), then you'd have a very good case agaisnt those who are making the noise, and those who are letting them get away with making a nuisance.   It is true, sadly that if you go ahead and make an official compiaint ot the Environmental Health Dept, then you will probably have to declare it when and if you sell. However, as there are other tenanted flats in the block, then your flat is very likely to sell to someone for a buy-to-let. In that case, they won't care about any noisy neighbours. It would be a great shame, though, when you've lived there happily for so long. (If you look at earlier posts, you'll see that my Mum is being pushed into doing the same thing, after SIXTY years in her house!)

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  • Mac99
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Re: Neighbour with laminate floors...

Hi NL,

Can I add to what Mrs B has said, even if you dont complain officially any sort of communication with the council is bound to be logged. You have mentioned having spoken to housing and this will be on record. I am of the opinion that this would have to be logged but if and when you come to sell your solicitor should be able to help with appropriate wording.

This was something that crossed my mind as my the previous oweners of my property had not declared the nuisance. I am of the opinion that it is better to sort the problem out so that you can enjoy the remainder of your time in peace and any new owners would perhaps feel more secure knowing that whatever actions you had taken were resolved and they had recourse if it started up again. It is easier having had a nuisance found initially.

Of course that is only my opinion.

Regards
Mac

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  • Registered: 6 August 2010
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Re: Neighbour with laminate floors...

Hi Yes
I know that as I have initiated a formal dispute with my Lessor that I will now have to disclose should I wish to sell.
However I will take this as far as is needed to ensure that laminate floor will no longer be a problem in the flat above me.
I have been contacted by Lease who state that I can take legal action against the Lessor ,although they have suggested going through the lessor’s ( who is a very large RSL) formal complaint procedure,or Lease mediation service firstly.
I have of course already done this and I am expecting a reply shortly (they have to reply within 10days and it is day 10 tomorrow.Mediation is not an option as I am not willing to give up any of the rights in my Lease.
There has been somewhat of a surprising development as tonight we have seen and heard carpet being fitted throughout the property.So perhaps something has been going on in the background or maybe the new Tenants have just decided to be considerate after all ( we have not spoken a word since I went to speak to  them after seeing packs of laminate being taken into the property) . I will try to break the ice when the dust has settled.
However I need to take this to the limit as far as the Lessor is concerned.
My intention,on a personal level is to ensure that the freeholder/lessor will never allow laminate flooring to be installed by any renting tenant in the property above myself. I require this in writing to keep with my lease.I will not accept any other resolution.
The wider motive is to ensure,on behalf of all leaseholders on our estate,or even possibly in any of the thousands of properties that the freeholder owns or manages, that no hard surface flooring  is allowed in any of their tenants flats, (  in line with the covenants of our leases).The irony of all this ,is that I have been told that their tenant’s tenancy agreements are going to be updated and the problems of laminate flooring is being looked at as part of that. I have requested that I am allowed to make my case to the body who are developing the new tenancy agreements.A recent newsletter from them also showed a picture of laminate flooring and telling tenants that they must apply for written consent to install.The Housing officer did not know anything about this newsletter or article that was sent out,and they did not know about the existence of the Defra guidance also..,but of course they did not know about the covenant in our leases regarding substantially covering with carpet throughout our flats!
I will keep you all posted as things proceed.
Speak to you all soon

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  • Mac99
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Re: Neighbour with laminate floors...

Well done. Looks like a result.

Regards
Mac

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  • Registered: 1 April 2010
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Re: Neighbour with laminate floors...

As I said previously, my Mum's local council didn't consider that she had a case, so she's decided to try and sell and move out. Now, of course, other neighbours are starting to moan about the noisy, and otherwise inconsiderate, neighbours.  Not only do they sound extremely noisy to their immediate neighbours on either side, they've started 'taking liberties' in other ways.  After leaving their rubbish outside (uncollected because they didn't leave it where they should!), they must have ended up with maggots in the bin, so the wife washed the bin out, wheeled it round to the access alley on the far side of her neighbour, and poured the water and remaining rubbish down beside the lady's house!  On the other side of the alley, the owners of the house there have had their front garden raised and paved, so they can park their car off-road.  THE neighbours just drove in and parked their car there!  Methinks there will be an explosion sometime soon.

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